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Bill Hancock, You Are Wrong.


[This is a rebuttal to Bill Hancock's USA Today Op-Ed Playoffs hurt the regular season - It can also be found here]

I certainly agree that the BCS does pair top teams in exciting must see games.  The National Championship Game, Sugar and Fiesta Bowls certainly fit this billing this year.  Some could argue that each of these three bowls still holds some claim to determining the true national champion.

Do you really want to encourage every person under a rock with a playoff design to attempt to contact and persuade the presidents, athletic directores, coaches and faculty that their plan is the best?  Shouldn't it be the task of the BCS to determine their ideals and find and implement designs that improve upon these ideals?

I disagree with your assertions and here are several reasons why:

First, playoffs only diminish the regular season if teams with more than two losses become a significant part of it.  Allowing higher seeded teams to have byes or host the first rounds both reduces travel costs and adds incentive to the top ranked teams to finish strong.

Second, for three weeks college fans travel for basketball to watch their team advance through March Maddness.  While many fans will find this task unaffordable plenty will be able to manage and fill the venues.  The rest of us will watch at home on TV, like most of us do now.

Third, shoehorning teams into a pre-constructed one size fits all seasons tournament will generate selection controversy that grows with the size of the tournament.  What is needed is a new paradigm that defines qualified teams to be selected and then apply one of a battery of designs that best fits that year's situation.

Fourth, college football (thanks in large part to the Saturday game tradition) interferes with classes and finals less than any other collegiate sport.  Even playing through December, as FCS Division II and Division III do would not alter this fact.

While congress has better issues to address than the management of the college football postseason, they would not need to if the BCS would follow due diligence in hearing issues and researching solutions without outside pressure.

The national champion of this sport will not be determiened until all teams can earn the title by winning the games they are allowed to play.

That said, the games are good, so we will be watching.

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}}}}"Second, for three weeks college fans travel for basketball to watch their team advance through March Maddness."

Uh, Duke HALF-fills basketball tourney first and second round games in friggin’ Charlotte, NC. That joint seats about 30,000. A football stadium seats about 90,000. Who would travel to Miami one week, L.A. the next, and then Phoenix the week after that?

}}}}}"While many fans will find this task unaffordable plenty will be able to manage and fill the venues. The rest of us will watch at home on TV, like most of us do now."

Most of “you” who watch it on TV need to think more about money… not the BCS. The money to actually put on a football game. How much do you think it costs (from your little sofa) to run a 90,000 fan, national TV, event? You have to have hotel space, you have to have ice in the coolers, you have to have electricity and MASSIVE TV production space. You have to have lines on the field, concessions in the stands and enough restaurants to feed 90,000 travelers to your city.

Who pays for all of that? Who takes care of all that? The bowls do. The NCAA tournament is MUCH smaller, and four teams play in one city, as opposed to two teams at one site. They can sell out a 30,000 seat arena, because there are FOUR schools buying tickets. The NFL playoffs are HOME GAMES, of course they sell out. The NBA, MLB and hockey leagues all do it the same way, and believe me, home games won’t work for a college football playoff. TCU doesn’t have the facilities to host that kind of game.

You have to use the bowls. They have the cash, the stadiums, they have the hotel rooms blocked, the streets cleared for the team busses and all the operational pieces in place. In essence, they have the keys to the city.

Now that you (on your little lay-z-boy) understand the basics of event management a bit more, let me ask you again. WHO PAYS FOR IT?!?!! The bowls do. Why? Because they bring in 90,000 people to their city for the events. Tourism dollars. Without that, it’s harder than you seem to realize.

So, go back to your comment about sitting at home like "most people." If everyone did that (which they will if given the choice to traveling now or waiting to travel for "the big game") then Bill Hancock is right. No one will be there. Why does that matter? Because the bowls won’t put forth the effort if everyone stays home. There’s no incentive for them.

And seriously, you want to watch a 1/3 full football game on your sofa, check out the pro-bowl. There’s some excitement. There’s more to the logistics of this kind of event than you seem to be able to grasp. The talking heads don’t always know what they’re talking about.

by narto on Dec 10, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ok, you got me on the point about the venue sizes.

Can you argue that fans won’t travel to one more bowl game? This is all any of my designs would call for.

I was rebutting the rhetorical statements Bill Hancock made point for point. The stretch I made in the argument is less than the stretch that was made in stating that a playoff would hinder the success in the class rooms. It is less than the insincerity of claiming to be concerned about bracket creep when the bowls have been proliferated as fast as the market can bear.

Bill Hancock didn’t touch on finances. BCS coordinator John Swofford has stated that a playoff would generate more revenue that the BCS. Big 10 commissioner Jim Delaney has estimated this to be 2-3 times the value of the BCS system.

In these trying time why are our university presidents leaving millions of dollars at the table when academic programs at their institutions are being cut for lack of funding?

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by utesfan100 on Dec 11, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I appologise if I was a bit short last night.

I read your vitrol and posted a knee jerk reaction. Obviously you have not read most of my other posts as you attack an idea I hold loosely to.

I would certainly appreciate any input you could provide regarding real world contraints on the postseason. The bowl tradtion is much more valuable to the principle parties in this discussion than determining a widely accepted national champion.

This argument is a stronger arguemnt for the bowls than the financial benifits they bring. Dan Wetzel would argue that they reduce the value of the premeir games to the colleges by diverting revenues to third parties. His claims are clearly part of a larger agenda.

To be sure, I have an agenda myself. I want to see the day when all teams can earn a title in the league they play in by winning the docket in front of them at the start of the season. Whether this takes the form of a non-confernece scheduing paradigm change or a post season tournament does not concern me. I feel the latter is much more likely given the popularity of the regular season and extremely low approval rating of the championship process.

The bowls are popular, especially the BCS bowls. The BCS Championsip selection process is not.

I have two designs I have presented here. The most expedient would allow all teams with 9 wins (originally a 10-2 record) over FBS teams to play in two bowl games. This change alone would naturally lead to a plus-one format. The second would change the selection paradigm to selecting the right teams and then deciding on which tournament design would best fit each year’s scenerio.

Neither of these are my plan. My plan is to perform a study over the next three years to distill the best ideas from all reasonable proposals into the best possible design to be implemented for the 2014 season after the current contracts expire.

I truly feel that no oragnization is better suited to manage the college football postseason than the BCS.

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by utesfan100 on Dec 11, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The problem is that the "bowl tradition" is nonsense

There is exactly one bowl with a non-trivial amount of traditon, and that’s the Rose. And the BCS is chipping away at that; with the 1998-2005 BCS arrangement forcing several non-Big Ten/Pac 10 Rose Bowls, and Ohio State and USC’s appearances in the BCS title game depriving the Rose of either the Big Ten or Pac 10 champion (but, oddly, never both at the same time). And the post-2009 agreement that requires the Rose to take a non-AQ team the first time one has an autobid and the Big Ten or Pac 10 champ is in the title game is going to whittle that tradition down even farther.

Bowls with no name other than the name of their corporate sponsor? No meaningful tradition.

Bowls whose conference ties are less than tweny years old? No meaningful tradition.

Bowls that are perfectly willing to throw their conference ties to the wind when an opportunity to grab a higher-revenue team comes their way? No meaningful tradition.

Wetzel is right. The bowls are leeches, and college football should end its association with them.

by drothgery on Dec 12, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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