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Mediocre Big 12 Teams Want Better Access to Mediocre Bowls

The Big 12 has had a couple of items hit the presses this week.  The most prominent is the addition of two new bowl contracts.  The deals would give the Big 12 a guaranteed spot in either the Dallas Football Classic or the Eagle Bank Bowl in 2010, 2012 and 2013 and first dibs on the waiting list for each in 2011 if their primary conferences fail to fill their slots.

The lower tier bowls are trending towards making contingency contracts to handle the growing tendency of conferences to fail to qualify enough teams their bowl slots.

This will give the Big 12 a total of eight bowls in every year through 2013.  Apparently this does not make it easy enough for the Big 12 to qualify teams for bowl games.  The Big 12 has also submitted an NCAA rule change that would allow 6-6 teams to be on the same footing as a team with a winning record in terms of bowl eligibility.

According to Big 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe:

Our feeling is that a 6-6 team from the Big 12 that has played five teams in the top 25 should not be in a different position from a 7-5 team from another conference that may have only played one or no teams in the top 25.  The six-win team is probably more marketable in some cases than the others, so it should be treated the same.

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Is the Big 12 really complaining that they only get 8 bowls because the Sunbelt and MAC occasionally get an extra 7-5 team into a bowl?  My sympathy is just not triggered by this plea.  Apparently the issue is urgent enough that he has petitioned to have the discussion advanced to this years when procedurally it should have to wait until next year for consideration.

The NCAA Board of Directors accepted this request for immediate consideration. 

Some Board members expressed a desire to examine the bowl structure in general, particularly in regard to the proliferation of bowls and the financial sacrifice some schools and conferences must make to participate. Others said bowl games were an excellent experience for student-athletes and that the market will determine whether the number of games was viable.

Did I miss the time a Big 12 team was 6-6 and did not go to a bowl game?

2008-2009: Arkansas State, Bowling Green, Louisiana-Lafayette, and San José State NOPE
2007-2008: Northwestern, Iowa, Louisville, South Carolina, Ohio, Louisiana Monroe and 8-4 Troy  NOPE
2006-2007: Pittsburgh, Kansas, Arizona, Washington State, SMU, Kent State, Louisiana Lafayette, Arkansas State, Wyoming YES!
2005-2006: Eight teams left out with winning records, non from automatic qualifying conferences

In fact in 2007-2008 TCU had to fill in for a Big 12 team in the Texas Bowl because the Big 12 did not have enough eligible teams.

Are we really talking about sour grapes from 2006-2007?  The NCAA has since added two more bowls to fix this issue and plans to add a new bowl next year.  Would Kansas really be one of the three teams listed that would now be left out?

If we really want to increase the bowls in a way that would be meaningful why not allow teams with a record of 10-2 or better to participate in two bowls?  That way we can get more bowls involving teams that are actually good.

Maybe I should write this idea up and send it in to the primary football contacts of the eleven conferences and three independents.  Oh wait, I already had a draft of this idea ready to include in my planned mid-January resubmission of my business plan and sent this off yesterday.

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Allowing 6-6 teams the same access to bowls as a team with a winning record
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Allowing 10-2 teams to participate in two bowls
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I love the reasoning.

“It’s not fair if a 6-6 Big 12 team that plays 5 top-25 teams doesn’t go to a bowl.”

So the inverse must be true. If a 6-6 big 12 team DOESN’T play 5 top 25 teams, they shouldn’t get to go to a bowl. Considering the number of current top-25 big 12 teams (3) I think all of the 6-6 Big 12 teams need to be left home this year.

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by displacedute on Nov 3, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The irony is the BCS might go ACC this year.

They have a shot at getting 10 of 12 teams eligible and they would all get selected by someone.

That might take a lot of thunder from their request. If the NCAA is serious about examining the entire bowl system design that would be a huge win for smaller conferences that currently pay to play in bowls.

I wish I could count on the NCAA being fair and just, because then this proposal could seriously blow up in the Big 12’s face. Unfortunately I suspect that much of the injustice attributed to the BCS is rooted in the NCAA.

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by utesfan100 on Nov 3, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If I remember correctly

2006 was the first year that all teams with winning records would get in to bowl games before the 6-6 teams.

That was considered progress. So it doesn’t make any sense why they would change it back.

In 2003, a 10-2 Northern Illinois team that beat two ranked teams didn’t even get to go bowling. Kansas, Northwestern, UCLA all got bids that year with 6-6 records and consequently lost their bowl games.

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by Mike Breese on Nov 3, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You are correct about 2006 being the first all winning teams got in.

Prior to 2005 the regular season was only 11 games and a 6-5 team was a winning team. Allowing 6-6 teams was added when the 12th game was added because otherwise the number of eligible teams would be seriously cut.

This was mostly achieved by increasing the number of bowls to accommodate all winning teams. The 6-6 teams act as buffers to account for statistical variances in the number of teams that qualify.

Only 32 bowls would be needed to accommodate the most winning teams in any of the past four years, suggesting we currently have two to many bowls. This is good for 6-6 teams from conferences like the Big 12 who should expect to get a bowl some other conference could not fill, if their conference even runs out before they get placed.

Giving 10-2 or better teams a second bowl would up this to 40 bowls, with the six new bowls featuring top 20 teams.

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by utesfan100 on Nov 3, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind that the rule only applies to at-large selections.

The Poinsettia Bowl can still take a 6-6 UCLA team over a 10-2 Northern Illinois team, because they’re contractually bound to take a PAC 10 team. The 7-5 rule only comes up when they’re taking at-large teams (say the MWC doesn’t get 6 eligible and the New Mexico bowl needs a replacement).

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by displacedute on Nov 4, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

funny thing you brought up northern illinois. they where the last team picked to play

la. tech in that bowl game last year. they were 6-6 and they are from the mac. it also happened to wyoming when they won 10 games and were snubbed. at the time wyoming had less than 500,000 people in the state. just tiny media markets in wyoming and it was when they were in the wac. i’m not taking a shot at northern illinois at all. i’m 90% for the mid level conferences. all 6-6 teams will get to a bowl in the future. they are adding two more bowls next year. only south alabama is moving up to fbs football in two years to the sunbelt conference. they want even more bowl games too. do the math. minimum 68 teams make bowl games out of 120 teams. that means 52 left out next year. peace.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 5, 2009 2:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gack!

The idea of this seems ludicrous to me.

Continuing to reward mediocrity seems silly to me.

I know, I know; it’s all about the cash.

But I know I wouldn’t be excited to travel to watch my 6-6 team in a bowl game.

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by D-Sing on Nov 4, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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