BCS Standings: November 1, 2009 + BCS Races and Analysis
Gaps in the standings indicate standings differences more than 0.06 in the standings.
Notes are made for the highest ranked teams from each conference, independents (ind), and all non-automatic qualifying conference members. (non-AQ)
Team must be in the top 14 to be eligible for a BCS at-large bid.
| Rank | Team | BCS Average |
BCS Top 25 Teams Remaining | Notes |
| 1 | Florida | .9918 | SEC #1 | |
| 2 | Texas | .9227 | Big 12 #1 | |
| 3 | Alabama | .9166 | LSU | |
| 4 | Iowa | .8407 | Ohio State | Big Ten #1 |
| 5 | Cincinnati | .8033 | Pittsburgh | Big East #1 |
| 6 | TCU | .8008 | Utah | MWC #1, non-AQ #1 |
| 7 | Boise State | .7863 | None | WAC #1, non-AQ |
| 8 | Oregon | .7651 | Arizona | PAC 10 #1 |
| 9 | LSU | .7121 | Alabama |
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| 10 | Georgia Tech | .6287 | None | ACC #1 |
| 11 | Penn State | .6166 | Ohio State |
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| 12 | USC | .5336 | Arizona | |
| 13 | Pittsburgh | .4401 | Cincinnati, Notre Dame |
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| 14 | Utah | .4226 | TCU | non-AQ |
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| 15 | Houston | .4209 | None | C-USA #1, non-AQ |
| 16 | Ohio State | .3784 | Iowa. Penn State | |
| 17 | Miami (FL) | .3707 | South Florida | |
| 18 | Arizona | .2589 | USC, Oregon, California |
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| 19 | Oklahoma State | .2179 | Oklahoma | |
| 20 | California | .2095 | Arizona | |
| 21 | Wisconsin | .1939 | None | |
| 22 | Notre Dame | .1903 | Pittsburgh | Ind |
| 23 | Virginia Tech | .1559 | None | |
| 24 | Oklahoma | .1494 | Oklahoma State | |
| 25 | South Florida | .0786 | Miami (FL) | |
Number of top 25 teams per conference:
4: Big 10, PAC 10
3: SEC, Big 12, Big East, ACC
2: MWC
1: WAC, C-USA
0: MAC, Sun Belt
What this all means after the jump...
The gaps in the standings are significant because they establish lines where teams are not likely to cross without a loss or a top 25 win. Essentially the gaps separate the field into groups and teams rarely move from one group to another.
Race to the National Championship Game
My estimated NCG lineups have changed slightly, as Oregon has inserted themselves into the picture at the expense of USC:
- Texas
- Florida
- Alabama
- Texas, with a loss and Big 12 championship
- Florida, with a loss and SEC championship game participation
- Alabama, with a loss and SEC championship game participation
- Iowa
- Oregon
- TCU
- LSU, SEC champion
- Texas, with a loss to Big 12 South champion Oklahoma State
- Cincinnati
- Alabama, with a loss to SEC West champion LSU
- Boise State
Race to the BCS Automatic Qualifications
Currently only teams within one game behind are included. Other teams may still be able to win.
| ACC Atlantic | W-L | GB | Conference Losses |
| Clemson | 3-2 | 0.0 | Maryland, Georgia Tech |
| Boston College | 3-2 | 0.0 | Clemson, Virginia Tech |
| FSU | 2-3 | 1.0 | Boston College, Georgia Tech, Miami(FL) |
| Wake Forest | 2-3 | 1.0 | Clemson, Miami(FL) Virginia Tech |
| ACC Coastal | |||
| Georgia Tech | 5-1 | 0.0 | Miami(FL) |
| Duke | 3-1 | 1.0 | Virginia Tech |
Georgia Tech appears to have clear sailing to the ACC Championship game, with Clemson in the lead for the more competitive Atlantic division race.
| Big 12 North |
W-L | GB | Conference Losses |
| Kansas State | 3-2 | 0.0 | Oklahoma, Texas Tech |
| Nebraska | 2-2 | 0.5 | Iowa State, Texas Tech |
| Iowa State | 2-3 | 1.0 | Kansas State, Kansas, Texas A&M |
| Big 12 South | |||
| Texas | 5-0 | 0.0 | None |
| Closest | 1.5 |
Texas is in the solid lead in the South and Kansas State has a slight lead in the North. The Kansas State Nebraska rivalry game might end up becomming a Big 12 semifinal game.
| Big East | W-L | GB | Conference Losses |
| Cincinnati | 4-0 | 0.0 | None |
| Pittsburgh | 4-0 | 0.0 | None |
The winner of this game will likely earn the Big East title and a BCS berth.
| Big 10 |
W-L | GB | Conference Losses |
| Iowa | 5-0 |
0.0 | None |
| Ohio State | 4-1 |
1.0 | Purdue |
| Penn State | 4-1 | 1.0 | Iowa |
Ohio State plays both Penn State and Iowa still. I can't see a way for Penn State to win unless Iowa loses two.
| PAC 10 |
W-L | GB | Conference Losses |
| Oregon | 5-0 | 0.0 | None |
| Closest | 1.5 |
Oregon's win over USC this week puts them in the clear lead for the PAC 10 title.
| SEC East |
W-L | GB | Conference Losses |
| Florida | 6-0 | 0.0 | None |
| Closest | 3.0 | ||
| SEC West |
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| Alabama | 5-0 | 0.0 | None |
| LSU | 4-1 | 1.0 | Florida |
With 2 games left and a three game lead we can call the SEC East for Florida now. The winner of the LSU-Alabama game will have the lead in the West and alabama could secure an insurmountable two game lead with the head to head tie breaker.
The race for the top non-automatic qualifying team
TCU has taken the lead for that spot reserved for those without a conference automatic qualification and will keep that lead unless they lose. Boise State is next in line. Utah can settle it on the field against TCU but would still need a Boise State loss. Houston would need a Boise State loss and a loss by the eventual winner of the TCU-Utah game to be guaranteed a spot. Even then, they might not be ahead of TCU.
The race for the three remaining the at-large berths
All teams in the top 22 should expect that winning their games is all they need to become eligible for a BCS berth. Of particular interest is Notre Dame, who would likely be selected over just about anyone regardless of rank. Oklahoma could make a case with a win over Oklahoma State despite three losses by a total of 5 points.
Some interesting rules come into play if the top 14 become constrained due to the provision that a conference may not qualify a third team as an at-large selection. This is unlikely as the SEC will qualify a second team and the Big 10, PAC 10 and Big 12 look set to qualify one as well. The ACC and Big East could have an eligible team as well.
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i believe notre dame has stanford at palo alto.
if toby g. is healthy i expect n.d to lose and with three losses n.d would not be high enough in bcs standings. tcu wins out. their in. boise stae wins out. they would just need two or three things to happen. one being the notre dame game and the other being that iowa wins out and gives osu their third loss. three things, osu beating penn state is a must so they have two losses. penn state’s out of conference schedule is a joke.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 1, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your conference schedule is a joke
Please don't tell me what to do or think, what I might say is a personal opinion.
by so.cal.native1952 on Nov 2, 2009 3:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe wolfman is a Nevada fan
Might be New Mexico, which is an even bigger joke ; )
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by utesfan100 on Nov 2, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you seriously trying to draw up a path for Boise State to get an at-large spot?
The Notre Dame-Pittsburgh game will eliminate one of those two anyways. Stanford Notre Dame could be interesting. Notre Dame could have a loss. If Cincinnati or West Virginia take care of Pittsburgh the Big East is taken care of.
If Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State the Big 12 should be out of the running for a second team. This gets doubled if Texas inexplicably loses one as well.
If Miami loses another game the ACC is out of the race for a second team as well, and South Florida will be ready to give them a battle. Virginia Tech could make a run but they should also have handled North Carolina.
None of these scenarios is certainty and it is almost imposible to eliminate the remaining three conferences from the top 14. The SEC is almost impossible to eliminate.
In the Big 10 the most likely route would be for Penn State to lose to Ohio State who then losses to Iowa. Even then Penn State might be hanging around very close to #14.
It is highly unlikely that Oregon will miss out on the Rose Bowl. We would need to see Arizona win vs. USC and California and lose to Oregon for the PAC 10 not to have a second team. USC could still be lurking around #14 in this case.
For Boise State to get an at-large bid after TCU earns a BCS spot would require at most two of the above scenarios not working out, with the SEC already counted as one.
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by utesfan100 on Nov 2, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
While Boise St may end up ranked high enough to qualify for a BCS bowl (behind TCU), it almost a certainty that they will not got an invite. This is not to say they are undeserving (although the SOS discussion could be had), but there is such a little chance the BCS (and its bowls) give out a second large paycheck to a non-BCS conference.
This is why Ohio St got their bid last year over Boise St, and this is why Ohio St/Penn St/USC/BCS #2 team will get a second bid over the WAC champion. It sucks, but it is the economics of it as well. Not to mention, that the BCS bowl would much rather have the alumni/students from a Ohio St/Penn St/USC/BCS #2 over Boise St. It is just logistics and money.
by talonk on Nov 2, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will likely be posting latter this week a BCS bowl projection.
I kinda just accidentally broke it down at The Mountainwest Connection.
You are entirely right.
It certainly appears that the top non-AQ team will play USC in the Fiesta Bowl, while the runner up sits outside the BCS.
The ultimate Boise State snub is comming in a post latter tonight…
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by utesfan100 on Nov 2, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Orange Bowl picks before Fiesta
Orange Picks before Fiesta. Some particular reason they wouldn’t take TCU, leaving a Fiesta spot open for BSU?
by uteben on Nov 2, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
They could take Penn State or Ohio State first, if they did not want to maintain their old Big East roots by taking the Big East champion Cincinnati or Pittsburgh.
If they take Penn State or Ohio State their would be no more at large spots for Boise State to fill.
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by utesfan100 on Nov 2, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the rankings hold true and Texas plays Alabama/Florida in Title game (with SEC champ the #1 seed), then the picks actually go like this:
1 – Sugar
2 – Fiesta
3 – Orange
4 – Fiesta
5 – Sugar
So for arguments sake (not predicting just assuming), let’s assume that conf champs are:
Big East – Cincy, ACC – GA Tech 12-1, Big 10 – Iowa 12-0, Big 12 – Texas 13-0, Pac10 – Oregon 11-1, SEC – Fla/Bama (winner 13-0, loser 12-1)
The matchups then look like this:
Rose – Iowa vs Oregon
Fiesta – Pick 2 vs Pick 4
Orange – GA Tech vs Pick 3
Sugar – Pick 1 vs Pick 5
NCG – Texas vs Fla/Bama
It almost a given, Sugar takes Fla/Bama loser with Pick 1. That leaves four picks from Cincinnati, TCU, Boise St, Penn St, USC, Pitt, Utah, Houston (assuming all have 2 losses or less and LSU cant qualify as being 3rd SEC team). My guess is Fiesta takes Penn St/USC with Pick 2. Pick 3 would most likely be Penn St/USC. Pick 4 would be Cincinnati, leaving Pick 5 for TCU. If Notre Dame wins out, they will be in Top 14 and sneak the a choice from USC/Penn St.
So it looks like
Rose – Iowa vs Oregon
Fiesta – USC vs Cincinnati
Orange – GA Tech vs Penn St
Sugar – Fla/Bama vs TCU
NCG – Texas vs Fla/Bama
I have a hard time believing Boise St, Utah, Houston would sniff a second BCS berth, even if all the BCS teams have 3 losses, because the BCS bowls are only obligated to give one spot away to a non-BCS school. The bowls do not have to take the next highest ranked school, they will take whoever they feel will fill more seats.
Also, if any upsets occur in the ACC or Big12 CG, you better believe Texas and GA Tech will automatically move up as choices in the at-large process.
So then we would have:
Rose – Iowa vs Oregon
Fiesta – Big12 North (Kansas St) vs GA Tech
Orange – ACC Champ (Clemson) vs Texas
Sugar – Fla/Bama vs TCU
NCG – Cincinnati vs Fla/Bama (I would suspect the Oregon/Iowa/Cincinnati choices would move around quite a bit depending on who is #2)
Not saying this is how they should do it, but it is what they will do.
by talonk on Nov 2, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its a little tricky to say what they would do.
You have the selection order perfect.
I suspect the Fiesta Bowl would take TCU over Cincinnati. They have had success with western non-AQ teams Boise State and Utah in the past and difficulties with Big East members Pittsburgh and West Virginia when it comes to teams selling their tickets.
I have heard some suggest that the Fiesta Bowl is entertaining the idea of a TCU-Boise State game, but chalk this up to idle chatter. No way this happens if USC, Ohio State, Notre Dame or Penn State are available or Texas loses the Big 12 championship (or gets knocked out of the NCG with a loss before then).
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